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You are disqualified from this game. Your signature gives a WA, it's missing the \n in printf :P :P :P
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A1 wrote:Lets see a proof:

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Let,
     a = b
=>a^2 = ba // multiplying 'a' on both side
=>a^2 - b^2 = ba - b^2 // adding -b^2 on b.s
=>(a + b) (a - b) = b (a - b)
=>(a + b) = b  //dividing by (a - b) from both side
=> 2b = b // as a = b
=> 2 = 1 // ??  :o 
Maybe math on your side of globe if different, but in Poland you must not divide by zero!
A equals b therefore (a-b) equals zero. So you can't divide by (a-b) !

Simple? I'll bet it is ;) Maybe you have got something more difficult :P
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Post by misof »

Andrew_PL wrote:Simple? I'll bet it is ;) Maybe you have got something more difficult :P
1 = sqrt(1) = sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i = -1
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misof wrote:1 = sqrt(1) = sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i = -1
As far as I remember the domain of function of square root is {x in R, x >= 0 }. So you can not write "sqrt(-1)". Error is in transformation "sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)".
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Andrew_PL wrote:
misof wrote:1 = sqrt(1) = sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i = -1
As far as I remember the domain of function of square root is {x in R, x >= 0 }. So you can not write "sqrt(-1)". Error is in transformation "sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)".
Nope. We define i to be a "number" such that i*i = -1. By adding i to the set of all real numbers and closing it under addition and multiplication we get the complex numbers -- all numbers of the form a+bi. For example, (7i)^2 = -49, (3+i) * (2-i) = (6 - 3i + 2i - i^2) = 7-i, etc.

You did say you wanted somethin more difficult :D
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misof wrote:Nope. We define i to be a "number" such that i*i = -1. By adding i to the set of all real numbers and closing it under addition and multiplication we get the complex numbers -- all numbers of the form a+bi. For example, (7i)^2 = -49, (3+i) * (2-i) = (6 - 3i + 2i - i^2) = 7-i, etc.
Man, I have been using complex numbers for 2 years in math and it's applications in electronics! So don't tell me what it is, all right :>

BTW: Don't say i (or j) is a "number", it is a number. Complex numbers are generalization of real numbers.
misof wrote:You did say you wanted somethin more difficult :D
You didn't say what I said wrong! I still saying that an error is in transformation "sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)". You can't just flip between domains just like that ;)
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Andrew_PL wrote: You didn't say what I said wrong! I still saying that an error is in transformation "sqrt( (-1) * (-1) ) = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)". You can't just flip between domains just like that ;)
Well, yes, the transformation is wrong, but still it isn't necessarily because it's about flipping domains. One can easily generalize sqrt() to complex numbers: for example by defining sqrt( r * (cos phi + i sin phi) ) = sqrt(r) * (cos (phi/2) + i sin (phi/2) ) [ for phi in <0,2*pi) ].
(In human words, for other than positive real numbers: out of the two possible complex "square roots" we take that one with a non-negative imaginary part.)

The problem with the "equation" above is that no possible generalization is reasonable enough to be distributive w.r.t. multiplication anymore.
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misof wrote:Well, yes, the transformation is wrong
:D
misof wrote:One can easily generalize sqrt() to complex numbers
I agree.
misof wrote:The problem with the "equation" above is that no possible generalization is reasonable enough to be distributive w.r.t. multiplication anymore.
In other words it is the same what I said :P

BTW: What w.r.t means ?
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Post by misof »

Andrew_PL wrote:BTW: What w.r.t means ?
with respect to

but let's not change the topic of this thread...

I win. :D
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misof wrote:I win. :D
You wish :P
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nice & interesting post!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Post by Rocky »

Hi,
Thank's A1 for this Interesting post.Nice rule for the infinite game.
Ok now i am the winner of the game...

Thank's in advance
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Post by Andrew_PL »

As I said before, there will be no winner until I'm an admin :> lol
(Or one of other players).
BTW: My classes start in next week, so I'll probably write not so often ;)
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Post by Ali Arman Tamal »

hehe good joke :D

what if ( a - b ) = 0 , is the division possible ? :lol:
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Ali Arman Tamal wrote:what if ( a - b ) = 0 , is the division possible ? :lol:
Division by zero is not possible in COMMON sense :P
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Joke

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Ha Ha ..
Yes That's A nice Joke...

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